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R. Pavlenko

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From: MPLS.
Registered: Feb 17, 2005
Re: The Art of Technology
Posted: Feb 17, 2005 8:13 PM
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Thanks for the links tip Jesse - when you say "Google placement" - what do you mean? Are links the only way that happens?

Eric Ishii Eckhardt

Posts: 13
From: minneapolis
Registered: Oct 21, 2004
Re: The Art of Technology
Posted: Feb 17, 2005 8:15 PM
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Hey John I caught this thread a while ago
http://www.mnartists.org/community/thread.jspa?forumID=25&threadID=710&messageID=8473#8473
and it seems not to be active any more

Kathleen Heideman

Posts: 19
From: Minneapolis
Registered: Feb 4, 2005
Re: The Art of Technology
Posted: Feb 17, 2005 8:17 PM
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R -
You might already be doing this, but check whether you include metadata in your page headers. If you create the pages yourself, you should be able to add information like KEYWORDS fairly simply. If someone else maintains your site, it is something to ask them about.

http://www.htmlhelp.com/reference/html40/head/meta.html
http://www.utexas.edu/web/guidelines/metadata.html

Beyond that, here is some general information on getting a site indexed more widely:

http://search.msn.com.sg/docs/siteowner.aspx?t=SEARCH_WEBMASTER_REF_GuidelinesforOptimizingSite.ht

joseph giannetti

Posts: 3
Registered: Feb 17, 2005
Re: The Art of Technology
Posted: Feb 17, 2005 8:19 PM
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one of the best ways to get people to your web site is to link to other sites that is one methode that google uses to rate your site in order on a page

Secound you should always have a link on your email to your site like this

http://www.giannetti.com/
Joseph Giannetti
1624 Rosehill Circle
Lauderdale MN. 55108
651-493-7585
Giannetti@macconnect.com
make them hot links

Kathleen Heideman

Posts: 19
From: Minneapolis
Registered: Feb 4, 2005
Re: The Art of Technology
Posted: Feb 17, 2005 8:19 PM
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Sorry, I wasn't aware of the truncation trick -

http://search.msn.com.sg/docs/siteowner.aspx?t=SEARCH_WEBMASTER_REF_GuidelinesforOptimizingSite.htm


Message was edited by: Kathleen Heideman at Feb 17, 2005 8:20 PM


Kathleen Heideman

Posts: 19
From: Minneapolis
Registered: Feb 4, 2005
Re: The Art of Technology
Posted: Feb 17, 2005 8:20 PM
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http://search.msn.com.sg/docs/siteowner.aspx?t=SEARCH_WEBMASTER_REF_GuidelinesforOptimizingSite.htm


@#$%^&

Jesse Hemminger

Posts: 18
From: Minneapolis
Registered: Aug 23, 2004
Re: The Art of Technology
Posted: Feb 17, 2005 8:20 PM
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By Google placement I mean that when someone types your name into a google search your website shows up as one of the top results.

I don't know to much more about getting good Google placement. Just that links to your site help. Anyone else know more about Google?

R. Pavlenko

Posts: 7
From: MPLS.
Registered: Feb 17, 2005
Re: The Art of Technology
Posted: Feb 17, 2005 8:21 PM
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Colin - Thanks for the tips. I'll check out that web site.

This is the first time I have ever taken part in any kind of live forum and it's fun! I really appreciate having those of you with expertise willing to help us newbees.

Another question please. When I look at web sites sometimes the images download quickly and other times it's about as fast as I 94 during rush hour. How do you design the site so images download quickly yet retain quality?

Colin Rusch

Posts: 1,435
Registered: Oct 16, 2002
Re: The Art of Technology
Posted: Feb 17, 2005 8:24 PM
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Hi Everyone,

We've got about five minutes left. Please post any final questions you have for our panelists this evening.

Colin

Eric Ishii Eckhardt

Posts: 13
From: minneapolis
Registered: Oct 21, 2004
Re: The Art of Technology
Posted: Feb 17, 2005 8:24 PM
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Jesse,
It generally helps to have good semantic mark up in your site. That means use live HTML text as much as you can and not graphic text. Use alt text any time you have text in images. Google particularly pays attention to use of H1 and H2 tags. Google also disregards a sites Meta tags because of rampant cheating in the past has pretty much invalidated them.


Message was edited by: eric williams at Feb 17, 2005 8:25 PM


joseph giannetti

Posts: 3
Registered: Feb 17, 2005
Re: The Art of Technology google
Posted: Feb 17, 2005 8:25 PM
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google has several methods for rateing your site

meta tags, ( words in you site ).
How often other people request you site.
how often it gets viewed and mostly links to your site
that is why people start web rings Severeal people with the same work linking to each other

http://www.giannetti.com
Joseph Giannetti
651-493-7585
Giannetti@macconnect.com

R. Pavlenko

Posts: 7
From: MPLS.
Registered: Feb 17, 2005
Re: The Art of Technology
Posted: Feb 17, 2005 8:26 PM
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Kathleen - Thanks for that suggestion about keywords and places to learn about meta data. I'll check those sites out too.
Rebecca

Kathleen Heideman

Posts: 19
From: Minneapolis
Registered: Feb 4, 2005
Re: The Art of Technology
Posted: Feb 17, 2005 8:28 PM
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Try to keep your web images as small as possible. THere are tricks to this, but it also takes practice. Try saving 1 image at 10 different JPG compression qualities -- this affects the quality of the image. You sacrifice quality to get smaller file size. Generally, an image needs to be a JPG if the original image contains photographic tone.

After you've saved variations, put them all in one web page, so you can compare them with each other. Can you really tell the difference between 50% and 60% quality, for example? If not, choose the poorer quality image. It takes some practice. Many artists (when they first start working with digital images for the web) make their images larger/better quality than necessary.

Stacy Turos

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Registered: Feb 4, 2005
Re: The Art of Technology
Posted: Feb 17, 2005 8:29 PM
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When creating graphics for the web you always suggle with quality vs file size. I recommend using a .jpg file with a quality setting that is low as you can live with. Software programs like Photoshop and Photoshop Elements have a save for web feature in the File menu. Don't forget to change the resolution to low resolution. 72 or 100 p.p.i. for web. 300 p.p.i. for print

Colin Rusch

Posts: 1,435
Registered: Oct 16, 2002
Re: The Art of Technology
Posted: Feb 17, 2005 8:29 PM
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It's 8:30 by my watch. Thanks to all of the panelists for sharing their time and expertise this evening. And thanks to everyone who logged in, posted questions, and followed the discussion. I apologize for the technical difficulties.

Have a great evening.
Colin

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