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Gabriel Combs

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Registered: Jun 16, 2002

Re: Graffiti Art
Posted: May 21, 2003 9:37 PM

your graf foto is by ewok. a pretty well known writer.

Lauren DeSteno

Posts: 1,520
From: Minneapolis, MN
Registered: Oct 19, 2001

Re: Graffiti Art
Posted: May 21, 2003 10:03 PM

ewok, eh? sweet. Thanks for the info. There's tons of beautiful stuff where I shoot. It's hard not to photograph all of it.

Ray Rolfe

Posts: 3,263
From: Northeast Minneapolis
Registered: Sep 5, 2001

Re: Graffiti Art
Posted: Jun 2, 2003 4:50 AM

ah Ewok. jahmon.

Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 23:33:25 -0500
From: Roy Tamboli <roy@tamboli.com>
Subject: murals

The Labor Art & Mural Project's mission is to use art in the struggle
for
social and economic justice. We are going to paint murals in Israel
and the
occupied territories to express the solidarity that existed between
Jewish
and Arab workers in the past, and which is being rebuilt today.
________________________
MIKE ALEWITZ

Mike,
This sounds really interesting. Where exactly will the murals be and
when
do you start?
thanks,
Roy
http://tamboli.com

Gabriel Combs

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Registered: Jun 16, 2002

Re: Graffiti Art
Posted: Jun 21, 2003 6:26 PM

> ewok, eh? sweet. Thanks for the info. There's tons of
> beautiful stuff where I shoot. It's hard not to
> photograph all of it.

Where is this wonderful place? I understand if its a secret....

Gabriel Combs

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Registered: Jun 16, 2002

Re: Graffiti Art
Posted: Jun 30, 2003 8:52 PM

I saw a sign someone stuck up high on a telephone pole on Marshall. It said "Art Now".

Ray Rolfe

Posts: 3,263
From: Northeast Minneapolis
Registered: Sep 5, 2001

Re: Graffiti Art
Posted: Jul 1, 2003 1:59 AM

YES! PERFECT! MORE!

Ray Rolfe

Posts: 3,263
From: Northeast Minneapolis
Registered: Sep 5, 2001

Re: Graffiti Art
Posted: Jul 1, 2003 11:40 AM

OK, anyone know who has been sprayin "Rip S.N" as in ripsaw news, around dinkytown? I'm curious.

Dr Somneblex

Posts: 2
Registered: Apr 13, 2003

Re: Graffiti Art
Posted: Jul 2, 2003 6:19 PM

I love it. Graffiti and poster art are about taking control of public spaces. In my neighborhood (Loring Park) I have to put up with the eye sore of the gross tan Target Tower, I don't get why people complain about the eye sore graffiti creates, when they are forced to endure ugly construction, billboards and other optical obstructions far more heinous every day! The difference is that the people who create graffiti usually don't have the money to earn "respectability". Plus, if we give graffiti writers the time and freedom from prosecution the work will look even better, and it won't be limited to ugly tagging. In London most of the graffiti is beautiful because it isn't as big of a crime.

Sam Spiczka

Posts: 1,671
From: Sartell, MN
Registered: Jul 20, 2001

Re: Graffiti Art
Posted: Jul 2, 2003 7:38 PM

Hi Dr Somneblex. It is interesting that if something is sanctioned by the powers that be, it is acceptable even if it is behavior nobody would condone done by an individual.

As for lessening the stigma of graffiti, I just had a vision of two roaming bands of people, broken down into subgroups, each side with their own culture. On one side are the graffiti-ers, existing more or less as they do now. Seeking to practice their art and compete against each other, they openly seek to reclaim the public spaces from the corporate owners. The other side consists of the "squares." MBA, corporate yuppie types who go around cleaning up the graffiti that is made. They openly support the status quo, not hiding behind claims of individuality. They all wear button down shirts and ties and are always one step behind the painters....

Sounds like a comic book premise. Pay no attention to me, I've been inhaling fixative all day long.

Sam

Lauren DeSteno

Posts: 1,520
From: Minneapolis, MN
Registered: Oct 19, 2001

Re: Graffiti Art
Posted: Jul 2, 2003 8:09 PM

Hello and welcome, Dr. S! I've been checking out your work when it pops up on the homepage - interesting stuff.

> Plus, if we give graffiti writers
> the time and freedom from prosecution the work will
> look even better, and it won't be limited to ugly
> tagging.

Agreed - tagging can be graphically beautiful, but it's the "this is mine" attitude behind it that makes it ugly. Allowing artists the time and freedom to make boring (ugly) concrete into a beautiful mural has always been a great idea. I don't know why more building owners don't implement this strategy (get rid of the tags they hate and get an awesome piece of art). Baffling.

Does anyone know if there are organizations (or people, or just one person) that coordinate walls with artists? If no one is out there doing it, I'd love to.

Anyway, ran across this article, kinda neat:

A Lesson from the Ghetto
http://aris.ss.uci.edu/~jstern/creating.html

lauren

Lauren DeSteno

Posts: 1,520
From: Minneapolis, MN
Registered: Oct 19, 2001

Re: Graffiti Art
Posted: Jul 2, 2003 8:21 PM

Oh, and on a related topic, the latest issue of The Rake had two great arts articles:

Grumpy (Tom Hazelmyer) and the OX-OP Gallery
http://www.rakemag.com/angle/detail.asp?catID=40&itemID=4634

Not For Sale
by Michael Fallon
Is the crap economy robbing artists of their canvas? Or is this just another trend—the temporary mural?
http://www.rakemag.com/coals/detail.asp?catID=58&itemID=4647

and a little blurb about the upcoming
Rogue Buddha gallery show (with our own fabulous Gabriel!):
http://www.rakemag.com/clock/detail.asp?catID=42&itemID=4666

lauren

Dr Somneblex

Posts: 2
Registered: Apr 13, 2003

Re: Graffiti Art
Posted: Jul 3, 2003 5:51 PM

Nice positive article on a controversial art form Loren.
It does become a tit for tat both over territory and between the property values crowd and the taggers as Sam alluded to, unfortunate, but aren’t many sectors of the art world dogged by cut throat competition?
I am not sure which foundation was involved, but one did help sponsor the mural on the side of the Supervalue on Broadway in N Minneapolis. If anyone hasn’t seen it, it is on the side of the store on 27th or so and W Broadway, almost in Robbinsdale. A demonstration of the full potential of aerosol art when given a legal space for display.

Gabriel Combs

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Registered: Jun 16, 2002

Re: Graffiti Art
Posted: Jul 8, 2003 11:31 PM

Just to note, tags are the most basic form of graffiti, and a nicely done tag can spawn much respect in the graffiti community. Unfortunately, like in most other art, most of it sucks and is terribly ugly. Also, beginners will write on garages, churches, ect... I personally, don't respect the damage done to private property, or storefronts unless its political. And even then, I expect a good reason. (like sexist advertising that attempts to program my child). It is expected that a persons tag show skill and control over the medium.
There is a lot of actual art being put up, done on wood, and screwed to things, if anyone has noticed. There is a "Fails" board by the place that "rents Harleys" on Washington Ave. There is another one across the street towards Marquette, from Big Brain Comics. This is an exellent way to get rid of art you don't want.

Lauren DeSteno

Posts: 1,520
From: Minneapolis, MN
Registered: Oct 19, 2001

Re: Graffiti Art
Posted: Jul 8, 2003 11:39 PM

> Just to note, tags are the most basic form of
> graffiti, and a nicely done tag can spawn much
> respect in the graffiti community. Unfortunately,
> like in most other art, most of it sucks and is
> terribly ugly. Also, beginners will write on garages,
> churches, ect... I personally, don't respect the
> damage done to private property, or storefronts
> unless its political.

Thanks for all the information. Do you happen to know of any persons/organizations that are putting graffiti artists in touch with building owners?

> And even then, I expect a good
> reason. (like sexist advertising that attempts to
> program my child).

No kidding! Both Matt and I were so excited to see those bebe ads in bus shelters get hit with fabulous graffiti commentary. Sad that the bus co. has to clean it up, tho.

> There is a lot of actual art being put up, done on
> wood, and screwed to things, if anyone has noticed.
> There is a "Fails" board by the place that "rents
> Harleys" on Washington Ave. There is another one
> across the street towards Marquette, from Big Brain
> Comics. This is an exellent way to get rid of art you
> don't want.

Yes, I've seen both of those and they're great. (And don't get me going about BigBrain...I could spend so much time and money there....)

lauren

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