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Chris Kilbane

Posts: 1
Registered: Oct 15, 2001
State Arts Board Registry
Posted: May 26, 2003 9:50 AM
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I received a postcard this month from the MN State Arts Board that stated they were not doing updates this May. If the arts board is having budget cuts like every other area in the state how about they use MNartists.org as a registry and save us all money on processing slides. Also much more time saving and easier to keep up to date. What do others think?


Colin Rusch

Posts: 1,435
Registered: Oct 16, 2002
Re: State Arts Board Registry
Posted: May 26, 2003 10:28 AM
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Hi Chris,

Welcome to the forums. Using mnartists.org as the SAB registry is a great idea. I am more than apply to help facilitate that happening. What do other people think?

Colin

Lauren DeSteno

Posts: 1,520
From: Minneapolis, MN
Registered: Oct 19, 2001
Re: State Arts Board Registry
Posted: May 26, 2003 1:41 PM
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Yes! That is a wonderful idea!

Sam Spiczka

Posts: 1,671
From: Sartell, MN
Registered: Jul 20, 2001
Re: State Arts Board Registry
Posted: May 26, 2003 2:51 PM
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It is entirely possible some are already using this site as a registry of MN artists. Probably no real good way to quantify it though.

Hey Colin, any estimates on the number of collectors/administrators that use this site, as opposed to all us bored artist-types?

Sam

Colin Rusch

Posts: 1,435
Registered: Oct 16, 2002
Re: State Arts Board Registry
Posted: May 26, 2003 4:02 PM
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> It is entirely possible some are already using this
> site as a registry of MN artists. Probably no real
> good way to quantify it though.
>
> Hey Colin, any estimates on the number of
> collectors/administrators that use this site, as
> opposed to all us bored artist-types?

Hey Sam,

I think you're right that collectors and administrators are using it already. I hear about it from time to time. Unfortunately, we do not have a reliable system to let us know who is using the site and how. But, we do know that many people have sold work and/or been approached by presenters because of the site.

Colin

Sam Spiczka

Posts: 1,671
From: Sartell, MN
Registered: Jul 20, 2001
Re: State Arts Board Registry
Posted: May 26, 2003 5:40 PM
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To further my ArtOrNot.com idea, on the actual HotOrNot.com site, every now and again a screen pops up asking you for various info and seeing if you want to receive various free newsletters. To borrow that idea, mnartists.org could have a screen open randomly asking the viewer if they are a collector, artist, gallery owner, etc. It would be a minor hassle, but could lead to some usable data. Just a thought.

Sam

Lauren DeSteno

Posts: 1,520
From: Minneapolis, MN
Registered: Oct 19, 2001
Re: State Arts Board Registry
Posted: May 26, 2003 11:05 PM
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I think a more targeted approach would be to have a special slide-registry area where you have to enter some basic information in order to access the registry.

lauren

Mays Newman

Posts: 92
Registered: Apr 29, 2003
Re: State Arts Board Registry
Posted: May 28, 2003 9:27 AM
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At the risk of being too overtly political, I send a message to all artists, arts organizers, and art lovers in the state of Minnesota.

My fellow Minnesotans, it is the duty of everyone who loves the arts in our state to stand up and make every effort to resist the current political atmosphere. In particular, artophiles, consider sending your support, in the form of a letter or a donation or some other gesture, to the Minnesota State Arts Board; and send letters, emails, or other messages to your state representatives with messages in support of this organization. Our State Arts Board, which was founded as the Minnesota Arts Society in 1903, is one of the oldest and most respected such state organizations in the country. According to the National Association of State Arts Agencies (N.A.S.A.A.), the Minnesota State Arts Board has also been one of the nation's most consistently innovative, and a model in terms of broadening the appeal of arts across the state. A spokesperson from N.A.S.A.A. cited the MN State Arts Board's involvement with the scenic byways project as an effective and innovative project that agencies around the country hold up as a model. Our state arts board also brings art programs to out-state regions and to public buildings across the state, thus bringing the beauty of art to all of our citizens.

For those who have not yet heard the news, the MN State Arts board had its budget cut last weekend by 32 percent (more than twice the budget deficit of 14%). Tthis means over the next two years there will be 30 percent less money for artists, and 60 percent less administrative money for the Board. Though Pawlenty would call me a doomsdayer for saying so, as a result Minnesota will lose much of the status as an arts-friendly state that has taken nearly a century to build. In fact, this is already happening. According the director of the Pennsylvania Council on the Arts (whose state refused to cut funding to the arts despite the same level of deficit as ours), people across the nation are aware of what's happening to the arts in Minnesota. "It's definitely something that state arts agencies are watching," she said recently, "and are troubled by--especially since there are so many reasons for funding the arts, such as educational and economic development." In Pennsylvania, she added, a bipartisan consensus has supported arts funding over the past two governor's (one Republican, the other Democratic) administrations because of the proven ability of arts to bring development and cultural tourism to a region. In the past years, Philadelphia has had a large part of its downtown rebuilt through arts funding, and the resulting economic development has transformed much of the city.

So now I wonder: When exactly did Minnesota forget its basic principles? When have we decided to let the rest of the nation pass us by in cultural innovation? When did we decide that guns take precendence over paintbrushes? Please, I implore you: Do everything you can to recapture the Minnesota promise--to make a better society for all.

Lauren DeSteno

Posts: 1,520
From: Minneapolis, MN
Registered: Oct 19, 2001
Re: State Arts Board Registry
Posted: May 28, 2003 9:57 PM
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Your hipocrisy is truly moving.

Mays Newman wrote:

> I'd like to
> see an arts magazine here, but I don't want to
> publish it; I'd like to see greater, not less,
> support for the arts in the capitol, but I'm not
> going to lobby. I'd like to see a lot of things, but
> I just don't have time and energy to make the world a
> better place--though I love telling people how I
> think it might be better.

Mays Newman

Posts: 92
Registered: Apr 29, 2003
Re: State Arts Board Registry
Posted: May 29, 2003 10:15 AM
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Hmm. My good intentions are misunderstood, as I suppose I should have expected. And this misinterpretation leads to insults, as I come more and more to expect here.
That's what I get for trying to pass on what I think is crucial information. Next time I'll keep my information to myself.

Note: My statement that you quote above was partially tongue-in-cheek. It was an encapsulation of why things don't change despite our wish for them to. I am not an activist, as most people aren't. But yet we all wish things would be better, don't we?

Still, activism can come in many forms, I think. My activism comes in sharing information. I write to affect change. My research is real, and enacted without hypocrisy. Those are real quotes above. I express my ideas with as much honesty as I can. I hope you can say as much.

Danny Smith

Posts: 182
Registered: Nov 9, 2002
Re: State Arts Board Registry
Posted: May 29, 2003 1:11 PM
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it's always unfortunate when the discussion degenerates to insults. there is a lot of talk on these forums about what to do to make the 'community' better, and you have joined in, lauren. are you doing anything concrete to effect change? the role that mays plays in the forum is an incredibly valuable one. he always posts with forethought and insight, and brings many facts to the proverbial table that many of us might not have been exposed to. i, for one, appreciate that. the ideas he brings may inspire some of us to act...

Mays Newman

Posts: 92
Registered: Apr 29, 2003
Re: State Arts Board Registry
Posted: May 29, 2003 1:38 PM
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I think Lauren's contribution to this forum has been very valuable too. She has been selfless in giving her time to answer technical questions and to join in the discussion wth general good humor. So I was surprised more than anything to get such a jab from her.

I wish I could tailor my messages to feed the optimism of the youngish artists who seem to be common on this site. I try not to be overly cynical, to give a positive message, while still being honest. And of course I give only my perspective from my experience.

I suspect Lauren's nasty message of yesterday came out of a place of hurt--she has expressed frustration in past exchanges with someone telling her that art is not an easy pursuit. She has even wondered if she should give up art after reading something I wrote. I hope she won't, but I also won't make my words all sunshine and soapsuds so that someone can feel good about what they do. It's not my job to solve the world's problems or to reassure a doubtful art student. Is problem solving of this sort even possible to undertake on a webforum?

All we can do here is tell what we think. That's all I've been doing. Maybe something will come of it, maybe not. And I follow mostly the pattern laid out by Sam--do it out of love and passion. But I am careful how much I stick my neck--as are we all, if we are honest enough to admit it.

Lauren DeSteno

Posts: 1,520
From: Minneapolis, MN
Registered: Oct 19, 2001
Re: State Arts Board Registry
Posted: May 29, 2003 3:25 PM
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> Still, activism can come in many forms, I think. My
> activism comes in sharing information. I write to
> affect change. My research is real, and enacted
> without hypocrisy. Those are real quotes above. I
> express my ideas with as much honesty as I can. I
> hope you can say as much.

You are right, and I am sorry for the jab. However, I can't help but hold you to the same standards that I hold everyone else - including the folks who say they "love the arts" and yet cut their funding.

I used the word hipocrisy purposefully - I'm sure I don't need to go into the etymology for you since you are pretty literary, but...

from Late Latin hypocrisis, play-acting, pretense, from Greek hupokrisis, from hupokrnesthai, to play a part, pretend : hupo-, hypo- + krnesthai, to explain, middle voice of krnein, to decide, judge;

Yes, writing and informing is important, but without the conviction to support your own words with actions, it is only play-acting. Walk the talk. Do as you say. If your claim to express yourself honestly, then it seems it is also your duty to "stand up and make every effort to resist the current political atmosphere."


Thank you for noticing that I have put a lot of time and effort into the forums here. I've noticed your efforts, and I agree with Danny that you write insightful, informative posts, and I thank you again for your contributions.

My apologies for the abrasiveness of the last post.

Lauren
Lauren

Lauren DeSteno

Posts: 1,520
From: Minneapolis, MN
Registered: Oct 19, 2001
Re: State Arts Board Registry
Posted: May 29, 2003 3:41 PM
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> I suspect Lauren's nasty message of yesterday came
> out of a place of hurt--she has expressed frustration
> in past exchanges with someone telling her that art
> is not an easy pursuit. She has even wondered if she
> should give up art after reading something I wrote. I
> hope she won't, but I also won't make my words all
> sunshine and soapsuds so that someone can feel good
> about what they do. It's not my job to solve the
> world's problems or to reassure a doubtful art
> student. Is problem solving of this sort even
> possible to undertake on a webforum?

You are so crafty and subtle with words, I almost missed this shift in focus. My choices about art-making have nothing to do with me calling you on the carpet for your lip service. Please don't psychoanalyze me, or why I choose to make art. I will not let you condescend to me this way simply because you are my senior.

Lauren

Lauren DeSteno

Posts: 1,520
From: Minneapolis, MN
Registered: Oct 19, 2001
Re: State Arts Board Registry
Posted: May 29, 2003 3:42 PM
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Ugh... and now back to your regularly scheduled State Arts Board Registry stuff...

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